Thoughts from President Cleveland

I read earlier this week that 20% of Americans take home 50% of the wealth, this leaves 50% of America’s money to the other 80%.  I think this is a rather large income gap, and I don’t know if its a good thing or a bad thing, but I am leaning bad thing.
I could argue that its a good thing because this is how supply-side economics works, give the rich their money and they can spend spend spend and when they do that it greases the economy, creating jobs and thereby distributing wealth.  And then the libertarian side of me thinks, well this is good as well, because if there are needy Americans the wealthy, with their wealth, can support them by their giving.  After all Grover Cleveland said, “[T]hough the people should support the Government, the Government should not support the people.”  Going on to say, “The friendliness and charity of our countrymen can always be relied upon to relieve their fellow citizens in misfortune.” Which is why you give wealthy people money, so they can spend it and give it.  I mean its the great libertarian, classical liberal ideal!
Although I do have a slight issue with this, the wealthy with money now aren’t necessarily so charitable and generous.  I mean lets be real there are far more people spending money and saving money than giving it to those in need.  Since reading Radical by David Platt I’m more convinced that Americans are far more concerned with the rat race, keeping up with the Jones, getting their American dream, etc., than ever.  The more consumerist a society becomes, the more “dreams” become transmitted through advertising, and the more gullible idiots with money, i.e. everyone, buy into those dreams then try and go get them.  So the friendliness and charity of fellow citizens is quickly vanishing to the consumerism and dream acquisition of our fellow citizens.
The idea of supply side economics, kind of like Reagan’s, is great if you want to allow a bunch of money into the market.  Unfortunately I don’t think this works if you leave such tax cuts in for so long that they simply become the market standard.  The only way such a policy is going to work is if you raises taxes so you can then cut taxes during another recession, or you just bottom out taxes to reproduce the effects.  (I must also say there are some that don’t even think it was Reagan’s policies that stimulated the economy as much as Carter’s.  Take that conservatives?)
This all brings me to the idea of taxes.  If the wealthy are not distributing their money to the needy do we need to raise taxes to redistribute their wealth for them?  I mean the government may not do it nearly as efficiently, but at least they’ll be doing it.  Or should we not so that the wealthy can spend their money, thereby stimulating economic growth thus distributing it that way? (I must add, I have read some that argue the wealthy aren’t spending money so much as they are investing and saving it.  Whether or not that stimulates the economy I don’t know.  I guess by investing it, it puts money into the financial system allowing banks to loan to business which allows business to grow and function.)  If this is our choice are we then protecting the rich and thereby allowing wealth to be concentrated with the few?  
Cleveland again has something to say to this.  

“Communism is a hateful thing, and a menace to peace and organized government.  But the Communism of combined wealth and capital, the outgrowth of overweening cupidity and selfishness, which insidiously undermines the justice and integrity of free institutions is not less dangerous than the communism of oppressed poverty and toil which, exasperated by injustice and discontent, attacks with wild disorder the citadel of rule.

He mocks the people who proposes that the Government shall protect the rich and that they in turn will care of the laboring poor”

So what are we doing as a society?  Simply looking to provide for the needy by means of socialism through high taxes?  Or are we trying to simply protect the rich under the guise of supply side economics? I mean if you want such a economic policy to work, as I have stated, you need something to adjust, otherwise it simply becomes the market norm and the market adjusts to it.  Me personally?  I think we are mocking the people, because I think we are protecting the rich who have influence in Congress and influence Congress to keeping taxes relatively low.  I’m no conspiracy theorist, but lobbyist do what lobbyist do, and lobbyist work for those who pay them, and the people that pay money are the people with money, and that ain’t the poor.  And unfortunately its not the particular slant of our fellow citizens to provide for people in need, like the farmer’s in Cleveland’s time, more money than the government would have given or does give.


2 thoughts on “Thoughts from President Cleveland

  1. Determining good wages for the poor has nothing to do with taxes, unless you're talking abotu welfare. I'm just stating the point of trickle down economics idea that lower taxes and regulation stimulates economic development, and thus the working poor get jobs and therefore money, be it enough or not enough.
    And those “things” some people think government should be doing is the redistribution of wealth. You collect taxes, and then the wealth gets distributed through paying people to work those jobs. That's why Keynes's argument was to lower interest rates and build infrastructure in the Great Depression.
    I think those that would say that the government is too bloated either don't know what they're saying exactly, or they think government spends more money than it has, and things it doesn't need to spend money on.

  2. Low taxes does not guarantee good income wages for the “poor”. Just look back through history, there has always been a “ruling” class. The fuedal lords, the dukes/duchesses etc… Taxes aren't just about redistributing wealth, it is about all those other things that people think the gov't should be doing (building roads, sewer plants, environmental protection, police/firemen, incentives to business). The problem is one person's idea of gov't responsibility, is not another persons idea. That what makes it so difficult to know what the gov't should do or not do, thus bloated gov't.

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